tkstka (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

there is nothing truth about the bible.. So many sadistic rules and contradictions it's hard to believe. Bible doesnt provide any morals.. If you think it's more to be afraid of hell and obey then do a good thing out of your own heart then there is something wrong with you.Now I dont judge anyone but you have to see that you wouldnt hit some stranger in the face out of nowhere because bible says "do to other as you would like to be done to you" but because you think it's wrong to hit someone

twotetah (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

earth hung on nothing recirded in Bible approx.1500+BC. greek empire didn't really exist till approx 340BC..they taught earth carried on back of Atlas.Bible stated truth over 1000yrs.before greek empire existed.roman empire started approx 200BC. they took most their religion/myths from greeks. it's good to seek Truth and see where it really leads...

twotetah (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

yeah,I only recently heard of Ryan myself. Didn't know him. Looked like a world class A+ grappler...

Mrgyn (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Greeks and the Romans figured out everything you just said LONG before the bible.

twotetah (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The Bible does provide moral value(dont steal,murder,commit adultery,obey law,provide for family,how to treat others,ect)To say Christianity dont teach morals is like saying a BJJ school don't teach grappling,or course it does. But you have to want it.Then you have to study it,work at it, make it part of you. To know something and do something are not always the same thing. Applies to teachings of Jesus/new testament as well. trying to be "cool"thing,I hear ya.tend to become like your friends

twotetah (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I too believe man cant fully understand God.But I believe we can understand what He reveals to us.There is advanced knowledge in the Bible that can't be easily explained by human logic;earth hung on nothing(Job 1500+B.C.)lot of religion/cultures taught earth carried on the back of a creature,ect.some others;water in space(comets,rings of saturn,ect)Sun travels in space,ect,ect.from 1500-500BC.we believe all men know theres something more,we believe too much proof for Bible to be fictional. peace

tkstka (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

that's just my analyzing of the sitsuation. I dont know him personaly so I really dont know anything but what rumors and stories I hear and read. So dont take my stupid mumbling as a word of truth. You know him best by asking people who lived with him and knew him from childhood

tkstka (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Christianity or any other religion doesnt provide any moral values.. Morals are learned from childhood and teenage years. Other Gracie family had no problem with that so I think he was isolated case. Probably just stayd under his brothers and cousins shadow. Always trying to compete and not getting the same respect and the attention as others in his family was getting. So he isolated himself by doing stupid shit and trying to be "cool" how he saw some other kids do when he was teen.

Mrgyn (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I'm a Sikh. We believe not in anything but the creator, something we know is impossible to understand. Something we know fictional books created by man can not explain fully. That was my point, that's all. Sikhism has NOTHING to do with Christianity.

twotetah (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

lack of moral guidance definently did not help him....as far as fairy tales believe what you want,but even the gurus and rastas on your site call upon God and rastafarianism is based largely upon the Bible..the more the words,the less the meaning,...I'm outta here. peace